[DowntownArtists] Hate mail

[ladams at ucla.edu]

I've been reading this thread and I'm not sure why people are so  
upset...artists are among the most difficult group of humans to  
organize.  Actually I don't think it's possible.  The thing about  
Martin Durazo is kind of funny.  It doesn't really matter whether you  
like/respect his work or not...he's one of us, we're all quite  
different.  As far as I know, no one has ever really been able to  
organize artists and I think that's OK too.  Health care would be nice  
but I think all Americans probably feel this way not just artists. As  
far as marketing...well my day job is PR and what can I say????

I think the idea of being in service to artists in terms of housing,  
studio space, suppliers, etc is very useful and fair.  Discussing  
ideas would be fabulous but there are so many artist who can barely  
pay rent now and the focus on trying to make money seems to loom  
large, at least is does for me.

I welcome discussions and hanging out (in all my spare time) and I'm  
back downtown after a ten year hiatus.  I lived DTLA from 1987-96 and  
now I'm temporarily at the SF Art Colony..still looking for a  
live/work space of my own.

Lisa :)

Quoting John Brosio <john at johnbrosio.com>:

> It seems to me that, at least in part, Mark is trying to organize
> Downtown Artists into an entity to be reckoned with as it pertains to
> shows, housing, studio space, health care, etc.  Anyone can sign up
> and no one is excluded.  I will be the first to agree that some
> artists involved produce work that is not ready for exhibition
> regardless of how much or little play they have gotten.
>
> But vision or not, please realize that it is MORE than difficult to
> organize a group of people who tend to wall up into their own spaces/
> heads, sometimes by necessity, to accommodate the demands of creativity.
>
> More "established" or "talented" artists among us would be welcome
> leaders in a group such as this.
>
> The meetings are open to all members.
>
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> On Jun 28, 2007, at 2:07 PM, noe padilla g5 wrote:
>
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>> On 6/28/07 1:06 PM, "Mark Walsh" <mark at markwalshdesigns.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Bocadeverita at aol.com
>>>> Date: June 28, 2007 10:23:46 AM PDT
>>>> To: mark at markwalshdesigns.com
>>>> Subject: artist
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> local truly talented artists don't want to sign up for your    
>>>> website artist guide because they all realized how narrow minded   
>>>>  your organization and founding members are. You are not    
>>>> interested in supporting artists. You are interested in    
>>>> supporting friends of friends who make bullshit art. I mean come   
>>>>  on... Martin Durazo?  His art work is the kind of thrown  
>>>> together   crap teenage wanna be artists from Ann Arbor were  
>>>> making in the   late 80s. What were you thinking?  It's a pity  
>>>> you have lost such   a huge opportunity to show case true talent  
>>>> in downtown los   angeles.  At some point you have to stop and  
>>>> ask yourselves why   you're having such a hard time getting  
>>>> artist to sign up. The   truth is well known amongst the  
>>>> community of artist in  downtown  ... your organization and its  
>>>> core members have bad  reputation  amongst the legitimately  
>>>> talented artists here. The  only thing  left is for all of you to  
>>>> realize that your  organization will  not thrive with the current  
>>>> founders in place.  There isn't one  visionary in the group and  
>>>> if there was one, you  all wouldn't  see him or her. Narrow  
>>>> vision, narrow mind.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Our first hate mail!
>>>
>>> I didn't realize people were not signing up because we are    
>>> excluding them! I guess I am so narrow minded, I didn't notice.
>>> The site is getting an average of 100 visitors a day and new    
>>> artists are signing up every day.
>>> The over all response has been very positive.
>>> Martin, by the way, was one of the artists selected by a panel of   
>>>  gallery owners and other art experts, as worthy of a $5,000 grant.
>>> Feel free to let this person know what you think about their opinion.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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